Nor Cal Fishing

[fishingmike22]

Will fishing was not that great at Los Vaqueros. I cought one on power bait. And had a bite on worms. The day was over cast but no rain. The shore was ruff. Some how i never do really good this time of year at Vaqueros. The best time of year for me is early summer to med summer.
And for thoughs of you planning to get a boat there hold off on that plan.
Trolling is really bad.


Please if you can post your vote in my poll. Thank you i am doing research.
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.

[fishingmike22]

Thank you for puting in your vote keep it coming. And all do my best to give you my fishing reports.


Thank you Mike
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.

[Hman]

No disrespect, I do not understand the point of the poll. A trout fights well on four pound test line. An albacore fights well on 20 pound line. A trout does not fight well on 20 pound line... How well or hard a fish fights is relative to the equipment one is using and how the fish is hooked.

The reason I logged into the site today was to see if anyone caught fish as a result of the 5000 lbs trout plant that occurred on March 17, Friday on the south side of the lake. Have not been fishing but will likely go out this coming week and will have to just guess since I don't see any reports on where may be a good bet.
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Cheers,
Hman

[fishingmike22]

I first wont to thank you for your replay, becouse that will help people understand more about way i am doing this. You sound like a guy that knows what he is doing. Thats whats cool about you. So i do this pole becouse it tells me about plants and the enverment the fish are in. It has nothing to do with the size of the line are the pole. Even though that can droll a efect on this poll. I trust most of us on this site, are useing the right gear. If not that's way most people come to this site. Have you ever fished san pablo caught a few fish; and then weeks later went to vaqueros and cought a few. And noticed a differnts in the fight. Are in that matter how will the fish stay alive? If so that has a lot to do with the enverment and how is supplying the stock. If i do this poll i can find out there develpent patterns and the enverments they are living in. some stockers hever better enverments then others. like Calveres is differnt then DFG. So from your help and others i get a better understanding of this. If you dont wont to do my poll thats fine, i understand.



I am also sorry that i dont have a report for you. I have not fished lately. Do to the rain, and that i have been on vacation. I also help run a football program so it hard for me to fish. But when i go out fishing all give you a report .


Ones agian thank you. And good luck on fishing.


Mike
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.

[Hman]

Food for thought... not all trout are the same.

In the late 80's some hatcheries raised a trout called a "triploid". This was a sexless trout, meaning it would not reproduce. This fish's claim to fame was it's ability to grow very quickly, since it's drive was to eat and grow versus eat and reproduce. This ment larger fish that may not have lots of fight, cool if you are after big fish.

Lake Amador plants a breed of their own called a "cuttbow", which tends to get air when hooked. Meaning is jumps out of the water when hooked. The fact that this lake plants trout 4 lbs and up, helps one believe this is a hard fighting fish.

Another lake I have heard of a trout called a "thunder trout", which my guess is another hybrid trout.

Many hatchery fish either rub their tails off on the tanks or the other fish eat off their tails. The hatchery fish without of the tail, although healthy I will say will not fight as hard.

You may wish to consider, are all the trout being planted in each lake from the same hatchery and are all the trout the same breed, if not there are other factors to consider.

Good luck with you poll.

Cheers,
Harry
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Cheers,
Hman

[fishingmike22]

well you learn somthing every day. The thunder trout you are talking about have been planted in shadow cliffs. that was few years ago. The plant of thunder trout was from the mt lassen farm.

Also the tail thing you were telling me about is funny that you say that. I was at vaqueros a few weeks ago. I cought a trout with a large good looking tail. And it was about 2.5 lbs it fight very hard.

Thank you for your help Hman you are one smart cookie.


P.S were do you get your info?
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.

[Hman]

30 plus years of fishing and reading. I am always looking for an edge when it comes to things I do, especially fishing.

The internet is a great tool for sharing information and when I see a good report, I leverage that information along with what I know to hopefully catch some fish.

Having said all this, I still get skunked once in a while and it only makes me fish harder not to let it happen again. Most fisherman post good reports and with this belief, I try to read about where the bite is on to help me decide where I will spend my time fishing next. There are just too many fish and not enough time!
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Cheers,
Hman

[fishingmike22]

well i have been fishing from shore about 16 years. And i have been flyfishing for abiout 7 years. I to this day i still get skunked like the rest of use. It is weird how that works. Some days your on fire and some day your not.


Well i will be going to vaqueros or shadow cliffs on sat. I looks like the fishing is really picking up at vaqueros do to the 5000 lb drop. Will maybe all see your there. Take care and good luck Hman.


Hey bye the way do you think trout bleed faster;and day quicker then others. Becouse of were they have been hook are there enverments they live in? Even if the fish has been hooked on the lip.
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.

[Hman]

Fish bleed best (or worse,depending how you look at this) when there gills are cut.

Cutting a gill is like cutting an artery in a person.

When you comment about a fish dying quickly even if hooked in the lip, I can only assume you are talking about on a stringer. Try this, use a metal clip stringer and pass the clip through the trout's jaw, not throught the gill. You will find the fish will live much longer since they can "breath", passing a rope stringer though the gill suffocates the fish since they cannot pass water through/past their gills.
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Hman

[fishingmike22]

Yea I understand that. What i am trying to say is right after you catch a fish this happends. like When i have it hooked on the lip. All have the rope through the gill at chabot. The way you say that couse them to not breath.
And they will stay alive for hours. But if i catch one at vaqueros. they die fast and bleed fast making it so i can not release the trout.


I am not saying you are wrong. you are right but what am saying is there is a more to it then that. It could be the way water it dose come from the snow run of at the delta. Are it could be the type of trout at vaqueros.

Will thanks for your help. I know Hman you come to this site to get reports. you have made that clear on other post before. But i just wonted to thank you on the help.


Thanks Mike
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I love to Fish it has been something that I have been doing sense I was 5. I am always looking for fishing buddys.